Great???? Rock Albums of 1985: Starship- Knee Deep in the Hoopla
Originally, I wasn’t going to post about this album. When I first heard tracks from the newly named Starship, (formerly Jefferson Starship) I thought, “OMG, how the mighty have fallen.” You see, from 1976-84, Jefferson Starship was my favourite band. Their albums during those years charted my own personal musical journey. The early albums from the mid to late 1970s, “Red Octopus,” “Spitfire” and “Earth” were much more progressive and considered by many to be mellow out rock. I never disagreed with this. However, there were even occasions on those albums, especially “Spitfire,” where they demonstrated they could rock out. That thought followed me into 1979 and then the early 80s where their albums, “Freedom At Point Zero,” “Modern Times” and “Winds of Change” were much more hard rock and I fully embraced the new sound as my own musical tastes were going harder.
Looking back to the past, some might argue that the 1984 “Nuclear Furniture” album was a sign of things to come with the Starship. It went back away from the total hard rock sound of the previous three albums but not as progressive as their 1970s ones. It had a more emerging 80s synth pop sound on some of the songs but not enough for me not to like it. Besides, the lyrics of many of the songs were more politically aware, something else I was getting into, so that album was okay. However, it was at this time rhythm guitarist and founding member Paul Kantner left the band and that would change the total dynamics of the band, starting with a law suit over the Jefferson moniker. If you remember when I posted about Paul’s passing, I stated that it was usually the songs he penned I liked the most on the albums.
In 1985, Starship appeared with the “Knee Deep in the Hoopla” album. I was curious and then I heard the first single, “We Built This City” on the radio and that was it. The lyrics might sing, “We built this city on rock and roll” but to me, a more accurate line would have been, “We built this city on top 40.” That song, established Starship as a top forty band with that song soaring in the charts. The second single, “Sarah,” was little better. The only thing that redeems it is Craig Chaquico hammers out a tidy guitar solo on it. But for the most part, I came to the conclusion in 1985 that Starship had sold out! Now, that label got banded about quite a lot back then and we can debate the semantics of it forever but what I did know was that I did not like their new sound.
Examining “Knee Deep in the Hoopla” further, it continues to be a top forty oriented synth pop album. Definitely not for me in 1985 and though I might have mellowed with age, it still doesn’t do it for me. The only songs which capture any interest for me are three of the middle ones, “Rock Myself to Sleep,” “Desperate Hearts” and “Private Room.” Kevin DuBrow from Quiet Riot fame sings backing vocals on “Rock Myself to Sleep” and that is the best song on the album for me. “Private Room isn’t too far behind but the rest of the album, with the possible exception of “Hearts of the World (Will Understand), doesn’t do it for me, even with Craig’s guitar solos.
What really angered me at the time and still does now is the reduction of Pete Sears to bass only. On those three early progressive albums, Pete shows his wizardry with the keyboards. I even equated him to the likes of Keith Emerson and Rick Wakeman back in the late 1970s. For further clarification, listen to the tracks, “Love Too Good” off the “Earth” album and “Sandalphon” from “Red Octopus” and I think you’ll be convinced. So, why in the hell did they relegate him to bass. Peter Wolf who plays keys on the album doesn’t hold a candle to Pete.
Track Listing:
- We Built This City
- Sarah
- Tomorrow Doesn’t Matter Tonight
- Rock Myself to Sleep
- Desperate Heart
- Private Room
- Before I Go
- Hearts of the World (Will Understand)
- Love Rusts
Mickey Thomas- lead vocals
Grace Slick- lead vocals
Craig Chaquico- guitar
Pete Sears- bass
Donny Baldwin- drums
Additional Musicians
Peter Wolf- keyboards
Les Garland- DJ voice on “We Built This City”
Kevin Dubrow- backing vocals on “Rock Myself to Sleep”
Another occurrence which annoyed the shit out of me back then was when I heard a Starship concert broadcast on the radio. During the concert, they played their classic hit “Find Your Way Back” from the “Modern Times” album. That song possesses the band’s greatest guitar intro of all times. However, when they played it at this concert, that great intro was all synthed out. For me, that was the final nail in the coffin and while I will always have great memories of Jefferson Starship, Starship can be left on the shelf.
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October 18, 2018 at 1:24 am
I had this on cassette as a kid, I remember liking it well enough. Of course, I was 11 when this came out so what did I know haha. Mostly it’s nostalgia for me.
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October 18, 2018 at 7:51 am
I think we were all like that at that age. When I was 11, I was into the Jackson Five which only goes to show.
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October 18, 2018 at 11:50 am
My lovely wife still loves the Jackson 5 and we’re in our 40s, so that goes to show too eh? Hahaha
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October 19, 2018 at 7:50 pm
Yep it sure does! Lol
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October 18, 2018 at 8:50 am
Great post and I admit I came into Starship via this album back in the day. I love ‘Love Among the Cannibals’, however that is very AOR and not what Jefferson Starship were about! Shame they disappeared although I think Mickey Thomas still tours a version around the US mainly?
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October 19, 2018 at 7:52 pm
I believe Thomas does. I never listened to “Among the Cannibals.” Is that the one with “Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now?” My ex-wife really liked that song.
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October 21, 2018 at 3:45 pm
That song is on the ‘No Protection’ album, last one to feature Grace Slick. ‘Love Among The Cannibals’ is very Def Leppard in the backing vocals and very mellow.
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October 21, 2018 at 4:40 pm
Ah, thanks for the info.
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October 18, 2018 at 10:47 pm
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October 19, 2018 at 7:52 pm
Thanks
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October 20, 2018 at 4:26 am
I just did not like this album. It was too squishy for me.
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October 20, 2018 at 1:51 pm
My thoughts exactly 😉
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